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“planetaryeverything else’s” success as incompatible. There are many historical examples of humans living successfully with nature thriving simultaneously. Dont think the elite dont know about the global problems facing humanity today and the easiest solution to these problems… Any release of a biological agent could never be linked back to them anyway. All they need is the agent and the vaccine and the timing… they know releasing that would cause devastation, they know it would get ugly, they like the current lifestyle they lead and do not want to change anything. They also know that the system is collapsing and it is only a matter of time. They know that if left to play out naturally, 7 billion people would take alot of messy years to get down to 1 or 2 billion which is probably closer to the “normal” carrying capacity of the natural world without fossil fuel inputs. This mass die off would free up the remaining oil, water, land, save the biodiversity, and give the planet a chance to recover. It is for the above reasons that I do not find it hard to believe that a group of very powerful people would not devise a plan to ensure that they stay on top when the dust settles. I could also see them having good reason for doing something about the population. The population is the number 1 crises the world faces. If the population were reduced by say 80% then pretty much all of the worlds problems would be solved. Reduction in GHG, peaking of oil would be put off considerably due to the lower demand, no one would need to slowly starve to death. No need for wars over land as their would be plenty to go around. And they could take this opportunity to manage the human population to ensure everyone was well educated and the population was maintained at a steady state rather than growing. The natural world has remarkable abilities to heal itself if given time and space. An example of this was during world war 2 the Atlantic Ocean did not have commercial fishing for 2 years, upon return of fishing the fishermen noticed their catches had increased amazingly. The fish stocks regenerated very quickly when given the opportunity. David M — I agree that there is much in our collective past that deserves to be brought forward into a better future. On the other hand I do not see the need to go back and repeat in detail some supposedly ideal tribal life. Ken Wilber puts forward the idea of â€˜transcend and includeâ€™ — meaning that as we develop to higher levels of intelligence and complexity we also need to selectively bring forward those aspects of earlier levels of adaptation that can serve us well at more advanced stages. A simpler life need not be a life of deprivation and ignorance. High culture need not abandon many simple virtues, nor be an obstacle to them. Because we have mismanaged many of the fruits of science and technology does not mean that they cannot be properly included in a more sensitive life that manages these things with care and does not end up being mindlessly used by them.